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Howard Marks

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

And you can read them all one at a time in order.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

And the only thing I can promise you is the price is right because they're all free.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

When did you start writing the memos?

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

In 1990.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

That's a good story, by the way.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

You should tell that one.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

Yeah, I'll tell that story.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

And it bears a little bit on what we're talking about here.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

But in 1990, I went to visit a client in the Midwest who told me that the pension fund he ran for 14 years was between the 27th percentile and the 47th percentile every year for 14 years.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

So if you say to somebody, well, for 14 years, it ranged each year between 27 and 47, what do you think they did for the whole period?

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

You would say, well, probably about 37, right?

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

And the answer is fourth.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

That pension fund was in the fourth percentile of all pension funds for the 14 years.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

Why?

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

Because some of the other people shoot themselves in the foot.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

So that was a lesson in consistency.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

And then right around the same time, there was a deep value firm in New York and they invested very heavily in the banks that year and the banks did horribly.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

So the president comes out and he says, well, obviously, if you want to be in the top 5% of money managers, you have to be willing to be in the bottom 5%.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

And the dichotomy between the implications of those two stories really caused me to write the first memo, the juxtaposition.

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Howard Marks & Andrew Marks: Something of Value

My clients don't hire me to be in the top 5%.