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Hsiao Bi-khim (Hsiao, Vice President of Taiwan)

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

Yeah, I can't emphasize enough that we want to avoid a kinetic conflict.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

There are no winners in war.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

But the other gray zone coercion against Taiwan is already happening.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

There are military assets circling Taiwan.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

The cognitive warfare, the disinformation, the efforts at dividing our society, weakening our domestic unity and cohesion, that is already happening.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

The cyber attacks are already happening.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

And so we also need hybrid responses.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

And I do not want to...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

Really think about what a kinetic conflict will look like because it will be hell and a disaster for humanity and I think it will also be harmful to the people of China and we

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

are continuing to invest in our defenses so that deterrence will actually work and that we can avoid such a conflict.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

But in the meantime, all of the other gray zone areas of coercion

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

threats, cyber attacks, that's ongoing.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

And we are in a race to make ourselves much more resilient.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

I've used the word resilience many times today.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

And I do think that is a core spirit of who we are as Taiwanese people.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

I grew up in a Presbyterian family in Taiwan, and the emblem is a burning bush.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

The burning bush is symbolic of

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

resilience.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

It is also a defiance against oppression.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#210 Hsiao Bi-khim | 蕭美琴 - Vice President of Taiwan

It's about keeping the spirit going and about resurrection against persecution.