Hunter Harris

who would come to mind?

Let me throw out the obvious names.

I'll throw out the likely presidential candidates, people like Gavin Newsom or J.D.

Vance.

I would throw out prospective ones like former Vice President Kamala Harris or even AOC as a person who obviously folks are thinking about.

If we get those names out of the way, who are people who you think might be some of the clues about the direction of power in our post-Trump world?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hunter, is there someone who comes to mind that you think could be a part of our charting our post-Trump future or a group demographically or culturally that you think is driving the direction of what we care about right now?

I hear it.

But to the Zoran point, do we think that that is a uniqueness that's because he is articulating kind of where people are?

Or is it because he's younger, hotter, better looking?

Like, is some of this like just a question of the type of candidate that is in front of us?

All right.

I want to ask about demographic groups like we are still in a changing country.

Like I feel like we used to hear so much in 2016 and kind of 2017 about the changing demographics of America.

And then all of a sudden everybody ran to the other side and said, oh, just because the country is getting blacker and browner does not mean that we are in this inevitably liberal direction.

I think that's true.

We've seen that.

But those changes are still reshaping politics.