Ian Bremmer

That's obviously going to continue.

I worry about that.

Different story, longer point.

The final point is on whether or not Trump is going to succeed in selling this war to the American people and the consequence it will eventually have.

And I think that Trump got the American people right in a lot of ways because he understood that Americans were sick of not having secure borders, said, I'm going to secure the border.

And they were sick of being sold a free trade message without people investing more in U.S.

manufacturing.

So I'm going to do something about that.

And his implementation was poor on both of those things in some ways.

He over over egged it in tariffs and he over egged it with ice.

But the baseline message, he got the American people.

He also got the American people with I am sick and tired of Americans fighting for wars that aren't actually in the primary interest of the United States.

And he did that on Ukraine.

I believe the United States should be supporting the Ukrainians.

I do in a way that Trump does not.

Right?

I believe it matters because the Russians invaded Ukraine.

It's a sovereign nation, democratic.

Russia's a dictatorship.

We invited them to NATO.