Ian Bremmer

We had a great conversation.

Oh, cool.

Just this idea.

I mean, I've liked him for a long time because he talks about issues that are not super fashionable, but that are really important to human beings.

I really appreciate him doing the work and making us think about politics.

Like, what identity is in this?

Because it's changing so quickly now.

Like, the nature of where humanity begins and ends seems to me very fluid in ways that people aren't thinking about.

And then finally, I was going to say The Chronoliths by Robert Charles Wilson, which was written back in 2001, but which I went back and I read recently.

And I wanted to see if the book still held.

And it was by, again, a...

kind of near-do-well intelligent folks, but who aren't really succeeding in society, who, by virtue of being in the right place at the wrong time, witness something from the future coming back that has the potential to rip apart the society or that they can fix it.

And the book is all about this.

This is before AI becomes like a real thing, and yet it's the same exact thing.

Ian Bremmer, thank you very much.

Thanks, Seth.

Helen, very good to see you.

Public sources.

Well, it's getting harder, first of all.

I think we all feel that.