Ian Carroll

And I eventually I went and checked it out once. I think it was actually once you started talking about, I was like, maybe I should see what she said in her newsletter. And it was just so out of left field because I've, I've treated her as nothing but nice. I really enjoyed her. I saw her as like a friend in the industry, had her on podcasts multiple times. Um,

Yeah. Yeah. So I like guest host on a podcast called the Club Maha podcast. And we had had her in, I think, two or three times as like a guest host, just like hanging out, talking, talking smack and just having a good time. And I had no understanding that I was a bad person. And I think the first dig was like about like boys.

Yeah. Yeah. So I like guest host on a podcast called the Club Maha podcast. And we had had her in, I think, two or three times as like a guest host, just like hanging out, talking, talking smack and just having a good time. And I had no understanding that I was a bad person. And I think the first dig was like about like boys.

Yeah. Yeah. So I like guest host on a podcast called the Club Maha podcast. And we had had her in, I think, two or three times as like a guest host, just like hanging out, talking, talking smack and just having a good time. And I had no understanding that I was a bad person. And I think the first dig was like about like boys.

Like it was about the Joe Rogan interview and about boys sort of like running the narrative or something. I forget exactly what she said in it, but it kind of was like water off the back, whatever. This is weird.

Like it was about the Joe Rogan interview and about boys sort of like running the narrative or something. I forget exactly what she said in it, but it kind of was like water off the back, whatever. This is weird.

Like it was about the Joe Rogan interview and about boys sort of like running the narrative or something. I forget exactly what she said in it, but it kind of was like water off the back, whatever. This is weird.

Um, and then I started to follow what you were doing and as partway through, which is what I said in the video I posted that became really controversial is partway through your video that first dug it open. I realized that I knew this Emily Hagan that you were talking about and I just put two and two together and I was like, what is going on?

Um, and then I started to follow what you were doing and as partway through, which is what I said in the video I posted that became really controversial is partway through your video that first dug it open. I realized that I knew this Emily Hagan that you were talking about and I just put two and two together and I was like, what is going on?

Um, and then I started to follow what you were doing and as partway through, which is what I said in the video I posted that became really controversial is partway through your video that first dug it open. I realized that I knew this Emily Hagan that you were talking about and I just put two and two together and I was like, what is going on?

And I immediately went to her Instagram and watched like an hour of stories and. It was, yeah, game over at that point.

And I immediately went to her Instagram and watched like an hour of stories and. It was, yeah, game over at that point.

And I immediately went to her Instagram and watched like an hour of stories and. It was, yeah, game over at that point.

Well, I'm being pushed by Qatar. So, you know, you've got to have a Middle Eastern country to back all of us.

Well, I'm being pushed by Qatar. So, you know, you've got to have a Middle Eastern country to back all of us.

Well, I'm being pushed by Qatar. So, you know, you've got to have a Middle Eastern country to back all of us.

And it's coming from all directions. And so it was during that watching your your video and then I paused and went to Emily Hagen's Instagram feed. And so your video had just dropped an hour or two ago.

And it's coming from all directions. And so it was during that watching your your video and then I paused and went to Emily Hagen's Instagram feed. And so your video had just dropped an hour or two ago.

And it's coming from all directions. And so it was during that watching your your video and then I paused and went to Emily Hagen's Instagram feed. And so your video had just dropped an hour or two ago.

And that had inspired people that I knew in my network that had been in Maha, that had been in Maga, people that have a decade plus in this industry to reach out to me and be like, I know more about the situation. This is what happened.