Ian Crossland

Women couldn't have credit cards and stuff like that.

I do think that you couldn't have a credit card in your name as a woman.

My broader point is women and men that got married, the man was responsible for the woman.

So that was one of the things that the suffragettes – one of the arguments against women's suffrage.

Women that did not want the right to vote said, well, then we're going to have all the responsibilities that men have.

Right now we don't have the same responsibilities that men have.

If we get the right to vote, they're going to eventually have – et cetera, et cetera.

And even to things that we talk about here, Tim talks about women should be up for the draft because they have full enfranchisement.

The reason that you you were women were considered second class or didn't have quote unquote rights is because they didn't have the corresponding responsibilities.

I think there should be extenuating circumstances, like if you've got a violent husband or something like that, fine, but otherwise— Yeah, and you can prove it.

Yeah, but otherwise— And it gets adjudicated.

Yeah, like you make a commitment, you make a promise.

The whole point of it is I'm committing my life to you.

We're in this through thick and thin.

The idea that, well, I just don't feel like it, that's not good enough.

Yeah.

Infidelity, violence.

I kind of want to just... Optional.

I mean... What do you mean it's optional?

You don't got to get married?