Ian Dunt

I'm not saying anything.

But this idea that we're fate, that it's all destiny, that it's fate, that it's going to happen, it's inevitable, that's absolutely bollocks.

It is all highly, highly preventable.

And you'd have pretty good money on it not happening at all.

And... I feel like my answers are incredibly long.

I mean, my throat is starting to hurt, which generally indicates I'm talking a lot.

Go on.

We're begging for politicians that are going to level with the public about

something real.

Like, it's obviously not there in reform.

It's not there in Labour.

It's certainly not there on the Ken Bedlock's Conservative Party.

So, maybe they're there with the Greens.

But this attitude towards taxation, which is just basically like...

It's just the billionaires.

We're going to tax the billionaires.

That will get us all the money we need.

That is just fantasy land, infantile nonsense.

It's just not economically true.

And when you start to assess, look, we should do more taxes on very, very wealthy people.