Ian Dunt

We're talking as there's just a week to go before the result in the

You peel off, what, 10% of his vote, 15% of his vote.

There's very little support for a restore, but you don't need to lose much of your vote, especially when it's five-way sort of battles, in order not to win.

So suddenly he has to try and keep those guys in check, which he's done by talking about cold, hard fury and calling for riots, but not spook all the people that are like,

Why on earth is someone who wants to be prime minister basically stoking race riots, you know, on the streets of Belfast, on the streets of Southampton?

And that's a really difficult political situation.

Not insurmountable, but it's not a great political situation to do, especially not when in the background you're already in decline, and especially not as well when immigration numbers, as they fall, mean the salience of the immigration issue has started to decline.

So your chief political attribute, the one policy you can count on to channel public rage, is also starting to fall in salience.

So look,

It's a big threat.

I'm not saying anything.

But this idea that we're fate, that it's all destiny, that it's fate, that it's going to happen, it's inevitable, that's absolutely bollocks.

It is all highly, highly preventable.

And you'd have pretty good money on it not happening at all.

And... I feel like my answers are incredibly long.

I mean, my throat is starting to hurt, which generally indicates I'm talking a lot.

Go on.

We're begging for politicians that are going to level with the public about

something real.

Like, it's obviously not there in reform.