Ian Dunt

And in that, in where he compromised and where he didn't, you get a sense of like the dangers of centrism where it ends up. But can I just add one thing to that, which is basically like, that is not just their problem. That is all of our problem. Because we all want to compromise. None of us think like it's a great quality to never compromise, right?

And in that, in where he compromised and where he didn't, you get a sense of like the dangers of centrism where it ends up. But can I just add one thing to that, which is basically like, that is not just their problem. That is all of our problem. Because we all want to compromise. None of us think like it's a great quality to never compromise, right?

Like we all know that's a disaster that we turn into lunatics if we behave that way. But none of us can quite figure out when is the right time to compromise and when isn't. We might feel it at a given moment, and that might be emotional and social as much as it is intellectual or moral. But none of us really know the answers to these questions.

Like we all know that's a disaster that we turn into lunatics if we behave that way. But none of us can quite figure out when is the right time to compromise and when isn't. We might feel it at a given moment, and that might be emotional and social as much as it is intellectual or moral. But none of us really know the answers to these questions.

It's just that by virtue of being like a kind of a system of thought that's based on compromise, unlike socialism, unlike liberalism, unlike conservatism, they highlight that problem in like a really acute way.

It's just that by virtue of being like a kind of a system of thought that's based on compromise, unlike socialism, unlike liberalism, unlike conservatism, they highlight that problem in like a really acute way.

And for that, they're kind of useful to read because they sort of help to teach you about maybe there's like some contradictions and some messy wiring in your own thought process about politics.

And for that, they're kind of useful to read because they sort of help to teach you about maybe there's like some contradictions and some messy wiring in your own thought process about politics.

These are annoyingly good questions. Okay, can I do the last one? Yes.

These are annoyingly good questions. Okay, can I do the last one? Yes.

as part of this book series like me and Dorian Linsky did do a book on fascism as well which by the way is also really hard to pin down and like sort of say what it is but there are it's not so much that there's good because fascism isn't really ideas it's quite it's just sort of like violence really like the aesthetics of violence the potency of it you know especially for young traumatized men

as part of this book series like me and Dorian Linsky did do a book on fascism as well which by the way is also really hard to pin down and like sort of say what it is but there are it's not so much that there's good because fascism isn't really ideas it's quite it's just sort of like violence really like the aesthetics of violence the potency of it you know especially for young traumatized men

But even there, like their sense of belonging and identity, there's something to learn from it. It's not like, oh, didn't Hitler have some great ideas? You know, but it's more like we can learn something from that. And I think especially on the left, like lots of the work after the war, you look at stuff by George Orwell or by Isaiah Berlin, was basically like, okay,

But even there, like their sense of belonging and identity, there's something to learn from it. It's not like, oh, didn't Hitler have some great ideas? You know, but it's more like we can learn something from that. And I think especially on the left, like lots of the work after the war, you look at stuff by George Orwell or by Isaiah Berlin, was basically like, okay,

What is there for the left to take from that shit that happened over there? Because we don't want to leave it to those guys anymore. You know, what do we have to say about belonging and identity and nationhood that cleanses it of some of that toxic bit? So, yeah, so basically nothing's off limits.

What is there for the left to take from that shit that happened over there? Because we don't want to leave it to those guys anymore. You know, what do we have to say about belonging and identity and nationhood that cleanses it of some of that toxic bit? So, yeah, so basically nothing's off limits.

Nothing's off limits. Yeah. But of course, again, all centrists are ultimately liberal Democrats. Small L, small D, right? Like, so none of them, if you say like, oh, but fascism is just a legitimate, they're all going to be like, well, no, up with that. I will not put. And then you trigger that problem with compromise.

Nothing's off limits. Yeah. But of course, again, all centrists are ultimately liberal Democrats. Small L, small D, right? Like, so none of them, if you say like, oh, but fascism is just a legitimate, they're all going to be like, well, no, up with that. I will not put. And then you trigger that problem with compromise.

I can't remember what your question was.

I can't remember what your question was.