Ian Dunt

Young people are completely alienated from their economy.

They're voting in all sorts of really dramatic ways because they're not invested in the economy, because they're still renting, even though they're now in their 30s, they're going into their 40s.

How extraordinary that people are willing to vote for such vigorous, violent change.

And you think, yeah, because there was a policy problem that you have failed to fix.

because of the inbuilt incentives within the governance system.

It was the same thing this election.

But to be fair to Keir Starmer, for Labour, Labour had lost a thumping, thumping defeat in 2019.

It was the kind of defeat that you're out for two terms, one term to try and fix it, another term to become a voter.

No one was really expecting it to change so quickly to go into government.

Now, you take when Tony Blair got into power, he'd had...

Three terms out of power.

They'd have Neil Kinnock, John Smith, then Tony Blair.

They'd launched all of those inquiries, social justice forums, had years to bake it in to come up with a series of policy proposals.

There's a real enthusiasm going into government then.

You've got stuff you want to do, things you want to change, things you want to improve with the country.

And weirdly, you have the time outside of government.

Once you're in government, you're just being buffeted by events.

It's just remorseless firefighting of events.

Once you're in government, you need the space in opposition.

It really matters that opposition parties think deeply about what they want to do, because once they're in government, it's much harder to find that thinking room.