Ian Dunt

That's getting close to a whole generation.

Actually, to be honest, that's basically my whole working life.

The economy has just been stagnating, basically comatose on a table, rarely going into recession but never really getting out of it either.

You can't grow the pie.

So everything you give to someone, let's say you need more special educational needs provision in school, or to bolster your defence because you no longer have a reliable security partner in the US, well, that has to come from somewhere else.

Either taxation or you take it out of another department.

That makes politics really fraught.

Things like prisons people don't really care about.

At least trains they care about.

At least schools and hospitals they care about.

Prisons they don't.

So those areas, those unguarded budgets, just start getting sliced away and cut up until prisons turn into this very chaotic space.

releasing prisoners who were more brutalised than they were when they went in, and your society starts to degrade in pretty significant ways.

And that is where we've ended up.

Extremely severe.

And this we've really had for quite a long time.

This kind of image, the Westminster model, don't the Brits do it very well, very careful lawmaking, it's all complete nonsense.

We write very bad law.

And we write very bad law because we pick very poor people to write it and to scrutinize it.

You look at the selection process for MPs in the UK.