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Ian Dunt

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

Why did the Conservative Party walk away from that?

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

Well, I think, I mean, there have been periods... I agree with that approach, and it's the basic Keynesian approach.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

There are periods where it stopped working.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

So, for instance, in the late 70s.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

And that allowed the sort of thought... Basically, the people around Hayek and von Mises, the old sort of laissez-faire neoliberal economics that have been building since the end of the Second World War, that allowed them to put forward their proposals for Thatcherism that made Thatcher triumphant, and that...

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

for conservatives like David Cameron and George Osborne, was the conservatism that they were raised on.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

It was conservatism triumphant, not just at the polls, over and over again.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

It was conservatism that won the Falklands War.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

It was conservatism that faced down, you know, the NHS and the BBC and the miners and the trade unions.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

And that sense of thumping, triumphant conservatism, they were born in, and they never really lost it.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

They were prepared to say things like, yeah, we'll match Labour spending.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

Just in the same way that Labour was prepared to say all the Thatcherite things they needed to say to get into power.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

But they didn't really believe it.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

So as soon as there was an opportunity, they reverted back to the old Thatcherite metaphor, which is deeply compelling to many people, which is that a nation's finances are the same as household finances.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

So if you're going through a rough old time, you need to sit down at the kitchen table and say, you know what, we've got to cut our spending.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

in order to make ends meet, and that's how you keep the roof up.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

Mostly because in a household, you can't borrow your way towards stimulating demand.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

That's just not a thing that means anything.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

The metaphor breaks down completely.

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The decline of modern Britain β€” where did it all go so wrong?

But in a nation, you can borrow to stimulate demand.