Ian Dunt

It was a disaster.

Just a terrible, exotic disaster.

Almost instantly, people started using words, phrases that was never really heard in any kind of political context.

Will of the people.

Will of the people.

It's the kind of thing that you're used to hearing from about Hugo Chavez or something.

You don't really hear that kind of terminology in British politics.

Politics is supposed to be retail offers.

This party comes along and goes, you know, I'll do this with mortgages.

I'll do this with stamp duty.

I'll do this with schools.

Do you like it?

Because if you like it, that's rational, decent retail politics.

And if you don't, you know, you go for the other guys.

It wasn't about like your sense of identity.

It wasn't about the people with a capital T and a capital P as one unified, homogenous whole that is spoken to by the leadership as if they can understand its spirit.

All of this stuff was just madly exotic.

I remember when... It just sounds like the Bolshevik Party to me as well, that idea, you know, we represent the will of the working class.

I mean, much more vicious, because suddenly politics wasn't about a difference of ideas, it was about who you were.

And that wasn't just the case of the opponents, right?