Ian Kemish

And finally, we had a government of the time, a minister called Gareth Evans, who really believed that middle powers could play a role in the big international issues of the day through the multilateral system.

And finally, we had a government of the time, a minister called Gareth Evans, who really believed that middle powers could play a role in the big international issues of the day through the multilateral system.

So, you know, all of that required information and analysis there.

So, you know, all of that required information and analysis there.

And also, you know, I'd speak for Australia from time to time, had a small aid program.

And also, you know, I'd speak for Australia from time to time, had a small aid program.

But I was all over the place, and I guess I was the person that ultimately the government was relying on for fresh understanding and knowledge of what was happening there.

But I was all over the place, and I guess I was the person that ultimately the government was relying on for fresh understanding and knowledge of what was happening there.

Look, I...

Look, I...

I saw some really inspiring things, as I said earlier.

I saw some really inspiring things, as I said earlier.

You know, Sarajevo during the siege.

You know, Sarajevo during the siege.

I could tell you all about flak jackets and helmets and driving down Sniper Alley and all that stuff.

I could tell you all about flak jackets and helmets and driving down Sniper Alley and all that stuff.

But actually, the thing that really stands out in memory is the memory of particularly women, people generally, but particularly women, emerging from, you know, the sometimes rubble of their homes, dressed...

But actually, the thing that really stands out in memory is the memory of particularly women, people generally, but particularly women, emerging from, you know, the sometimes rubble of their homes, dressed...

for the day, made up beautifully.

for the day, made up beautifully.