Ian Landsman

And obviously, like anytime I say HubSpot and HubSpot and people get confused, even more than with HubSpot, like help scout, although that one does get confused as well sometimes. But yeah, I'd say in terms of naming irks, HubSpot kind of takes the project.

And obviously, like anytime I say HubSpot and HubSpot and people get confused, even more than with HubSpot, like help scout, although that one does get confused as well sometimes. But yeah, I'd say in terms of naming irks, HubSpot kind of takes the project.

It's all right. He's a great guy.

It's all right. He's a great guy.

Yeah, it's crazy. He's so good. Yeah. A few times I've talked to him over the years too. It's just like, yeah, he's still like the guy from in the four. You know what I mean? It's like, he's a billionaire now, but he's still kind of just the same guy.

Yeah, it's crazy. He's so good. Yeah. A few times I've talked to him over the years too. It's just like, yeah, he's still like the guy from in the four. You know what I mean? It's like, he's a billionaire now, but he's still kind of just the same guy.

Yeah, the other thing, I guess the other main thing, if you want to keep up with what I'm doing, is mostly technical is my podcast. I do with Aaron Francis and sort of there's a little, it's more like somewhat technical. There's a little bit technical, but mostly it's business and other topics. So it's more entertaining, I'd say. Yeah, so check that out. We have a lot of people seem to like that.

Yeah, the other thing, I guess the other main thing, if you want to keep up with what I'm doing, is mostly technical is my podcast. I do with Aaron Francis and sort of there's a little, it's more like somewhat technical. There's a little bit technical, but mostly it's business and other topics. So it's more entertaining, I'd say. Yeah, so check that out. We have a lot of people seem to like that.

So that's been fun the last year or so working on that. Again, one of my little, I can't really justify it on an ROI basis purely, but it's a fun thing that I get to work on and it's exciting to do. Awesome. Yeah, so check me out there.

So that's been fun the last year or so working on that. Again, one of my little, I can't really justify it on an ROI basis purely, but it's a fun thing that I get to work on and it's exciting to do. Awesome. Yeah, so check me out there.