Ian Madigan

And then, I think it was on about 35 minutes, you know, they brought on, I think it was Urbano and...

the toy and it just shored up the game for them and then suddenly you start winning scrum penalties you can flip the field once you're getting that so you know you've a scrum on your own 22 you win a penno you're up to the 10 meter line you go to your mall and then bat when they get like 35 40 meters out from their line their power game is so good they'll take you through 10 15 20 phases before you know it you're in under the post going you know you're

What have we done wrong there?

Not a whole lot.

You've just been completely out-muscled.

Yeah, I think they're an aging team.

But with that, what I'd say with them is they still have a big day in them.

And I wouldn't write them off at the weekend.

But if they were to win this weekend, I wouldn't be confident that they'd be able to back it up in the quarterfinal.

And that's what you get.

And in a way, it's similar to La Rochelle.

La Rochelle have struggled with that consistency.

And part of that is when you've got a lot of your squad north of 30 or with a lot of miles on the clock,

they've just struggled and the opposition are coming up against these guys and they kind of know what's coming and they've largely figured them out they've had a tough year in the Premiership this year so they'll be really clinging on to trying to go on a run in the Champions Cup but I'd be confident that Bath will win that game but I think it will be more of an arm wrestle than people think

He's still a very, like a very good rugby player.

I think Saracens just don't have the firepower around him.

And, you know, it's not like he's a game breaker now where he's going to be like Jally Bear making breaks, chipping and chasing his own balls and the ability to kind of win it single handedly or change a game.

he's more like george ford and you know the older you get as an out half you've got to be able to kind of plot your way around he does that really well his kicking game is excellent you know really really good defender and you know very good strategist in the sense that he's very comfortable like i remember covering the game uh in the challenge cup last year when uh rassing had a red card against um connacht and there were 21 nil down and

When Farrell came on, he just changed the game.

He hit a drop goal, but he just plotted his way around it.