Ian Madigan

But no, I don't see us playing that same game plan, but I also don't think it was a setup either.

First off, with game management, it's easy to be hindsight heroes and say, oh, they overplayed there because the outcome wasn't good.

You look at the break that Ireland made from the English 22, and that's high risk.

You're playing out, but because we've gone clean through and we've made a line break up to the halfway line and kicked it into their 22, we think that's a good decision, but it's all outcome-based.

So I certainly want to be careful being critical of Jack because it was something that drove me crazy as a player when people say, oh, game management.

And game management quite often is down to execution because these guys, when they're deciding to run it, they've seen...

they've seen the picture, they've been presented with an opportunity and they think it's go time.

But then it comes to, you still need to execute.

You know, you need to get your depth right, the quality of passing, the lines of running.

And as an out half, when you see that space and it's called to there, but the execution of a player around you lets you and the team down, that comes back to, oh, that was poor game management.

That said, I also think it's tied into the point I made previously.

I think going into the game,

Irish players 1-23 thought it was going to be a bit easier and I think they were probably given license to attack from deeper because they thought it would be easier to progress up the field but they were met by a Welsh wall but game management for me quite often is when you feel like you're losing momentum or you've lost momentum and now's the time to kick that is not the time to kick

you want to pre-empt that.

So good passage of play, you've the opposition moving backwards and then the kick comes in when your team has all the momentum.

So it's trying to pre-empt that.

I've seen Crowley do that well and it's actually been a big area of improvement from him from even two seasons ago where I thought he was very much just playing phase to phase and

There is still a tendency with him to do that.

But I wouldn't have been overly critical of him as an individual.

Gibson Park plays a key part in it as well.