Ian Madigan

And you end up coming around the back of the ball, like the milkman says, and that's a snap hook.

And he's right.

But there's times when the plant foot is in a perfectly good position.

So it's just the lack of consistency.

Being honest, Joe, that's more for them to answer because I know what I use and I knew my cues and technique inside out to be talking about.

Because there's more than one way to skin a cat and Johnny's kicking percentages through his career were really high.

So it worked for him, but it required more work at the same time.

George Ford...

Yeah, George Ford's a quality kicker.

He uses a similar technique.

But a lot of work has gone into that to be able to be accurate consistently.

Yeah, one of the downfalls with the telescopic tee, if it's a windy day, it's much easier to hold the ball in position with the way Johnny and Jack set it up.

Yeah, they punch it a bit more, don't they?

Yeah, but also the ball will stay in place, whereas it's kind of sitting on...

it's just less balanced oh sorry you mean actually on the tee on the tee it can blow off but look you're kicking in big stadiums and

I remember spending a fair bit of time making sure that if you check the weather and you go, right, it's going to be windy at the weekend, I'm going to practice with someone holding the ball and I'm going to make sure that that person's starting and I'm going to make sure that I've got someone who's going to be coming off the bench to also do that job.

Because if that goes wrong, it can affect it as well.

Yeah, yeah.

I think I said about like...

I was trying to watch a replay of one of Prendergast's plays from earlier in the Six Nations because I missed it because I was traveling to the game.