Ian Verrender

Oh, absolutely.

And as we're saying, this is all about securing supply and forget the price.

And the reason why we can secure the supply is because we can afford to.

Firstly, we've got that leverage in terms of gas.

We can say to these countries that with liquid fuels, that are producing liquid fuels, you want our gas, we want your liquid fuels, you better reciprocate.

But the other factor, of course, is that we're a rich nation and we can afford to do this.

If you're not a rich nation and you can't afford to do this, this is going to lead to enormous economic problems for, you know, particularly through Southeast Asia.

Yeah.

And I mean, I think it's one of the issues the IMF was worried about, you know, that they articulated last week about a global recession, a downturn.

I mean, this is clearly going to have a major impact on global growth and on inflation as well.

And look, we are in the fortunate position that we can afford to do this.

But what do you do?

I mean, if you're the prime minister of Australia and you've got the opportunity to try and save your constituency, well, that's what you're going to do.

And it's, you know, really, you know, forget about everybody else.

It's kind of every man for himself at the moment.

I think what they're trying to do is to avoid what we saw in the early part of this conflict, where people were panic buying.

This is all about, you know, calming down the community.

Don't go out there and buy more than you need.

There's plenty coming in here.

Look at these ships that are about to arrive.