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Ian Verrender

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ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

Well, firstly, I mean, everybody thinks that resources in the ground belong to the Commonwealth and belong to the people of Australia, which is kind of true.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

But it actually gets down to a state basis because Australia is a federation of states.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

And so it's the...

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

not Australians per se, but the people who live within the states.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

Those resources belong to the states and shouldn't be governed for people who are just currently alive, but for future generations as well.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

Now, how does it work?

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

Well, and how did that come about?

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

The East Coast gas exports come from gas that's supplied out of Bass Strait, out of New South Wales, out of Queensland.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

So the gas all comes from each of those three states.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

So obviously there was difficulty in trying to come to some kind of arrangement between the three states to get some kind of policy there.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

But it was actively explored and decided, this is the Gillard government, they were already under pressure from iron ore taxes and the resources rent tax on iron ore.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

And they very successfully managed to force the then Labor government to junk that resources rent tax, come up with a second best option, which was then completely thrown out when Tony Abbott became Prime Minister.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

So the Labor government at the time looked at it and said, no, we're not going to have a reservation policy here.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

Now, interestingly, over in the West, I have spoken to the then premier, Alan Carpenter, who was the person who imposed that tax.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

And he told me this story about how

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

He was sitting in a room with, you know, the chief executive, senior executives from the biggest resources companies around the world about, this is really around Northwest Shelf and all of the offshore gas projects that happen there.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

And apparently at one stage, you know, he said, look, we're going to have this gas reservation policy just to ensure that there's enough gas for Western Australians into the future.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

And so for every bit of gas you export, there's going to be 10% of that reserved

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

Western Australians.

ABC Business Daily
Why hasn't the price of natural gas spiked?

He said, somebody thumped the table and said, there will not be one molecule of gas that will be reserved for domestic use.