Ian Verrender

And I've always found it quite amusing that, you know, you speak to people who'll debunk the whole theory around climate change,

But then you'll look at the roof on their house and they've got solar panels on there.

And Australians have been possibly, I think, the biggest society with an uptake of solar generation, home solar generation than any other country in the world.

And yet, you know, you're right.

The debate's always been sort of the wedge has been through climate change.

Is climate change real or not?

Whereas now it's becoming, well, look, it's just a lot cheaper to do it.

Put a battery beside your house, run an electric vehicle, and that's going to get down to money rather than a philosophical debate about science.

Oh, look, it's always quite amusing, really.

You get an IMF report, and if you've ever worked in a newsroom, suddenly the chief of staff will run down and say,

the IMF has just said this about Australia.

And you go, well, yeah, but they got that information from Treasury and from the Reserve Bank about six weeks ago.

We wrote about it back then.

So they are a little dated, the reports that they bring out.

But I mean, look, as you say, it's always interesting to read what the IMF distills out of the information that they get from us and also to contrast with what's going on around the world.

Thanks, Carrington.

See you later.

And I'm the ABC's Chief Business Correspondent, Ian Verinder.

Who knows, Carrington.

I mean, I expected some modest advances this morning.