Ilana Glazer

Thank you to my guest today, Dr. Ayanna Elizabeth Johnson.

Ayanna wrote, What If We Get It Right?

And her website is getitright.earth.

This has been a solely human-made production.

This is also a Star Picks production.

And I want to thank my creative producers, David Rookland, Anika Carlson, Glens Mahar, Kelsey Kiley, and Madeline Kim.

I want to thank the people who made this episode look and sound so good today, Nicole Maupin, Louise Nasrella, and Kevin Deming.

I want to thank our editor, Tova Leibovitz, who just cuts these episodes so good.

I want to thank Remo Ventura, who provided the beautiful graphics and opening musical sting, as well as Don Herr, who has created this beautiful outro music for the show.

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Thank you so much for joining us today and see you next time.

Welcome to It's Open with Alana Glazer.

My guest today was just such a wonderful conversationalist and surprised me.

It's Ben McKenzie, the actor you know from The O.C.

and Gotham.

But did you also know he's an author of the book Easy Money and a writer director of his new film called Everyone is Lying to You for Money?

He's exposing in his book and in this new documentary, he's exposing the complete scam that is cryptocurrency.

But what I found also interesting is that he...

There's an exploration of masculinity here, and it's not just crypto, but it's crypto as a container for some community or cult-like figure that men today seem to need.

He's 47, I learned.