Ilana Golan

to become a futurist and one of the world's leading voices in AI innovation.

And we're going to discuss why he left the hottest job in the tech, why he believed the future is bright with AI, not necessarily scary, but how you can prepare for this era of change.

So I can't wait.

Let's dive in.

Zach, welcome to the Leap Academy show.

Oh, it's going to be so, so fun.

I'm really excited about this.

I will touch your career just for a second, but we're going to dive right into all the AI stuff because I think it's fascinating.

But how do you even get to open AI, right?

That's not easy on its own.

And you've had various roles like figure eight and little, like, can you talk to us a little bit of like, how did you even get to open AI?

How did you get to open AI?

Was it just like a resume?

Did somebody bring you in?

Walk me through.

How do you even get out of the people's pocket?

It wasn't as cool yet, I think.

For people who don't know, maybe explain to them what is modern AI.

I think when ChatGPT came up, it became like wildfire, but there was AI way before that because I came in the tech world and we were talking about AI way before what you're probably mentioning.

So maybe dumb it down for people who have no clue what you're talking about.