Ilana Golan

Tell me more.

Well, we'll talk about it because I think storytelling does come back as a theme for you in the various places.

And we're definitely seeing that theme throughout.

But at some point you got into Bain.

Is that right after college, I guess?

All the details that we hate, both of us.

Isn't it amazing that we're not learning that?

And we'll dive more into that in college, but I chose the wrong path every single time.

Like I did the engineering, I did the project management.

I cared about the big fluff things like the trends, the competition, but then the details of prioritization, that is like suicide for me.

I don't know why we're not learning that.

This is so important.

So I can't wait to keep diving in.

So from Bain, you kind of understand that the details is not really for you, but you still don't know how to capture that yet, right?

So tell me after that, what's going on?

You're going to Oracle.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

So stop, stop, stop.

This is super interesting.

So what age are you at this point?