Ilana Redstone

And that means, kind of as you were saying, that means not attacking someone's character.

It's a good question. I mean, so I don't wanna sound like I think there's one goal that sort of answers that question equally for everybody. I can give you one answer though. So I'm in the sociology department at the University of Illinois. And sociology, higher education, just on the political spectrum, I'm not saying anything new here. Higher education leans left.

It's a good question. I mean, so I don't wanna sound like I think there's one goal that sort of answers that question equally for everybody. I can give you one answer though. So I'm in the sociology department at the University of Illinois. And sociology, higher education, just on the political spectrum, I'm not saying anything new here. Higher education leans left.

It's a good question. I mean, so I don't wanna sound like I think there's one goal that sort of answers that question equally for everybody. I can give you one answer though. So I'm in the sociology department at the University of Illinois. And sociology, higher education, just on the political spectrum, I'm not saying anything new here. Higher education leans left.

Sociology within higher education is one of the disciplines that leans left within higher education. So that tends to be the orientation of a lot of the students that I see, for example. They, I would not say that when I interact with students, I would not say that their goal is necessarily education. to change minds, and I'm generalizing, there's obviously variability within students.

Sociology within higher education is one of the disciplines that leans left within higher education. So that tends to be the orientation of a lot of the students that I see, for example. They, I would not say that when I interact with students, I would not say that their goal is necessarily education. to change minds, and I'm generalizing, there's obviously variability within students.

Sociology within higher education is one of the disciplines that leans left within higher education. So that tends to be the orientation of a lot of the students that I see, for example. They, I would not say that when I interact with students, I would not say that their goal is necessarily education. to change minds, and I'm generalizing, there's obviously variability within students.

I would say that they genuinely feel certain and believe that they are doing the right thing when they are saying things this is wrong, this is hateful, et cetera, right?

I would say that they genuinely feel certain and believe that they are doing the right thing when they are saying things this is wrong, this is hateful, et cetera, right?

I would say that they genuinely feel certain and believe that they are doing the right thing when they are saying things this is wrong, this is hateful, et cetera, right?

Like, I think that it comes from, at least from what I've seen, not necessarily an instrumental goal of saying, I'm going to tell you you're racist and then you're going to change your mind, but a feeling that I need to call this out when I see it. And that's my, maybe they wouldn't word it this way, but that's my moral duty.

Like, I think that it comes from, at least from what I've seen, not necessarily an instrumental goal of saying, I'm going to tell you you're racist and then you're going to change your mind, but a feeling that I need to call this out when I see it. And that's my, maybe they wouldn't word it this way, but that's my moral duty.

Like, I think that it comes from, at least from what I've seen, not necessarily an instrumental goal of saying, I'm going to tell you you're racist and then you're going to change your mind, but a feeling that I need to call this out when I see it. And that's my, maybe they wouldn't word it this way, but that's my moral duty.

Right. Well, part of that is, well, I don't even, actually, I'm not even sure I agree with that. I don't think nothing comes with it. I think, sorry, nothing comes of it. I think that what comes out of it is more extremism, more polarization, more contempt, et cetera. Like I think what comes, and so part of what I'm trying to do is help them understand that that's part of what's going on.

Right. Well, part of that is, well, I don't even, actually, I'm not even sure I agree with that. I don't think nothing comes with it. I think, sorry, nothing comes of it. I think that what comes out of it is more extremism, more polarization, more contempt, et cetera. Like I think what comes, and so part of what I'm trying to do is help them understand that that's part of what's going on.

Right. Well, part of that is, well, I don't even, actually, I'm not even sure I agree with that. I don't think nothing comes with it. I think, sorry, nothing comes of it. I think that what comes out of it is more extremism, more polarization, more contempt, et cetera. Like I think what comes, and so part of what I'm trying to do is help them understand that that's part of what's going on.

So I don't think if what you mean by nothing, you know, what comes out of it, yeah, what comes out of it in terms of, As you started to say, changing minds, like making the world a better place, that I don't think is where it ends up. I think it has all of these other consequences. So in other words, I don't think that that kind of behavior is neutral.

So I don't think if what you mean by nothing, you know, what comes out of it, yeah, what comes out of it in terms of, As you started to say, changing minds, like making the world a better place, that I don't think is where it ends up. I think it has all of these other consequences. So in other words, I don't think that that kind of behavior is neutral.

So I don't think if what you mean by nothing, you know, what comes out of it, yeah, what comes out of it in terms of, As you started to say, changing minds, like making the world a better place, that I don't think is where it ends up. I think it has all of these other consequences. So in other words, I don't think that that kind of behavior is neutral.

I think it has negative consequences that I'm trying to help people understand.