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I was just like, you know, choose one of two or three. That is your life. I just love the fact that you were able to say, you know, we are big believers in portfolio careers and that in the future of work, everybody will have a portfolio and not just one thing. I do believe that there's this whole thing of portfolio career. But take me back in time a little bit. So

I was just like, you know, choose one of two or three. That is your life. I just love the fact that you were able to say, you know, we are big believers in portfolio careers and that in the future of work, everybody will have a portfolio and not just one thing. I do believe that there's this whole thing of portfolio career. But take me back in time a little bit. So

I'm sure throughout your career, there was like some really core challenges and we always learn more from failures than from the successes. Can you share a moment that you're like, oh my God, huge challenge, but huge learning opportunity.

I'm sure throughout your career, there was like some really core challenges and we always learn more from failures than from the successes. Can you share a moment that you're like, oh my God, huge challenge, but huge learning opportunity.

Oh, I love that. And for the audience, if you didn't catch this, if you can't get in the door, maybe you need to build your own door and just carve your own door and get in. Right. I mean, I just love that. Right. But Bastian, sometimes, and I think for many of our listeners, sometimes you Life gets so hard, right? It's like you're trying so hard. Things are still punching you.

Oh, I love that. And for the audience, if you didn't catch this, if you can't get in the door, maybe you need to build your own door and just carve your own door and get in. Right. I mean, I just love that. Right. But Bastian, sometimes, and I think for many of our listeners, sometimes you Life gets so hard, right? It's like you're trying so hard. Things are still punching you.

Things are not falling into place. You slept on a beanbag. Maybe some people here lost their jobs. Some of them are in some kind of financial stress. How do you train that well enough to just keep on going, keep on believing, keep on taking one step at a time? What works for you, Bastiano?

Things are not falling into place. You slept on a beanbag. Maybe some people here lost their jobs. Some of them are in some kind of financial stress. How do you train that well enough to just keep on going, keep on believing, keep on taking one step at a time? What works for you, Bastiano?

Oh, such a beautiful way to put it. I do believe that you're building a muscle to become the legend that you were supposed to be, but that muscle needs to be built by some challenges that come your way to create that and to build you to the next version of you. And Bastiana, you also talked about network.

Oh, such a beautiful way to put it. I do believe that you're building a muscle to become the legend that you were supposed to be, but that muscle needs to be built by some challenges that come your way to create that and to build you to the next version of you. And Bastiana, you also talked about network.

And I think that's really, really important because I'm pretty sure every opportunity you've ever gotten is through people bringing you opportunities. It's not job boards. These opportunities are not coming from the newspaper, right? So can you give like an example of how exactly that worked for you?

And I think that's really, really important because I'm pretty sure every opportunity you've ever gotten is through people bringing you opportunities. It's not job boards. These opportunities are not coming from the newspaper, right? So can you give like an example of how exactly that worked for you?

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And I will see you in the next episode of The Leap Academy with Ilana Golan Show. First of all, the notion of give, give, give. Yes, I understand it's a chess game and you want to do this right. And there's also an ask that we need to get better at asking what we need. But if we don't give, we become that person that is just taking, taking, taking.

And I will see you in the next episode of The Leap Academy with Ilana Golan Show. First of all, the notion of give, give, give. Yes, I understand it's a chess game and you want to do this right. And there's also an ask that we need to get better at asking what we need. But if we don't give, we become that person that is just taking, taking, taking.

And eventually the squeaky wheel maybe gets the oil, but it's the first thing you're going to get rid of, right? So at some point, it's really important to understand that. What is the other person? What can I help? What can I offer? Because when there's really specific things that you can give and you're seeing as that indispensable, it's just incredible.

And eventually the squeaky wheel maybe gets the oil, but it's the first thing you're going to get rid of, right? So at some point, it's really important to understand that. What is the other person? What can I help? What can I offer? Because when there's really specific things that you can give and you're seeing as that indispensable, it's just incredible.

And I love the example of public speaking. For me, public speaking changed my life. It's just such a great way to... Be, on one hand, more of a thought leader. On the other hand, give a lot back. Just love all of this, Paciano. And I think we both share kind of what we talked about, these portfolio careers. You don't have to do just one.

And I love the example of public speaking. For me, public speaking changed my life. It's just such a great way to... Be, on one hand, more of a thought leader. On the other hand, give a lot back. Just love all of this, Paciano. And I think we both share kind of what we talked about, these portfolio careers. You don't have to do just one.