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Now let's get back to the show. It's true for everything. I mean, the comfort zone is a very dangerous place for all companies. I agree. So tell me, how did you get into real estate? And when was that based on that 51 boundary, right?

Now let's get back to the show. It's true for everything. I mean, the comfort zone is a very dangerous place for all companies. I agree. So tell me, how did you get into real estate? And when was that based on that 51 boundary, right?

But take me there for a second, because one of the things that we're seeing with a lot of people is that fear of money or fear of taking a loan or fear of doing something that you don't really know. How were you not afraid?

But take me there for a second, because one of the things that we're seeing with a lot of people is that fear of money or fear of taking a loan or fear of doing something that you don't really know. How were you not afraid?

Tell me more.

Tell me more.

And you still build empires.

And you still build empires.

So you somehow know how to push it out?

So you somehow know how to push it out?

So many of my people listening to this have to hear this. And honestly, I need to hear this. So walk me through this for a second. So you are taking a loan on money. You don't necessarily know where it's going to come from. You know that you could be broke because you've seen your mom, right? So it's not something that is unknown to you. What makes you still go for it?

So many of my people listening to this have to hear this. And honestly, I need to hear this. So walk me through this for a second. So you are taking a loan on money. You don't necessarily know where it's going to come from. You know that you could be broke because you've seen your mom, right? So it's not something that is unknown to you. What makes you still go for it?

And now you just do the same, Grant, but you just do it on bigger sums of money that are just like mind-blowing. So take me to your thought process. Because again, the biggest thing holding people back is this.

And now you just do the same, Grant, but you just do it on bigger sums of money that are just like mind-blowing. So take me to your thought process. Because again, the biggest thing holding people back is this.

Do you think that being the person that looks at the worst thing, is that making you a better investor, actually? Because I think that probably you're not as optimistic. So you're actually finding the actual holes in the deal.

Do you think that being the person that looks at the worst thing, is that making you a better investor, actually? Because I think that probably you're not as optimistic. So you're actually finding the actual holes in the deal.

I don't know. I think you kind of are in Mars with your multi-billion dollar enterprises.

I don't know. I think you kind of are in Mars with your multi-billion dollar enterprises.

So talk to me about, for a second, a hard moment and how did you overcome it?

So talk to me about, for a second, a hard moment and how did you overcome it?