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Jessica Jackley, one of the most incredible social impact entrepreneurs and investors. She co-founded Kiva.org, first peer-to-peer micro-lending platform. I don't know how you got into this. We'll talk about it. And since 2005, has raised over $2 billion in loans, reaching over 5 million people in 84 countries.

Jessica Jackley, one of the most incredible social impact entrepreneurs and investors. She co-founded Kiva.org, first peer-to-peer micro-lending platform. I don't know how you got into this. We'll talk about it. And since 2005, has raised over $2 billion in loans, reaching over 5 million people in 84 countries.

Now the founding and general partner in Untap Capital and so much more things that you're doing, Jessica. I don't even know how you're doing it. But get us started. How did you grow up that made you decide to start Kiva? Well, thank you for having me.

Now the founding and general partner in Untap Capital and so much more things that you're doing, Jessica. I don't even know how you're doing it. But get us started. How did you grow up that made you decide to start Kiva? Well, thank you for having me.

Take me back in time, Jessica. Someone working or living the Stanford, California, comfortable life forever. finds herself flying to Kenya, Uganda. I mean, the only thing I'll correct is, yes, of course, objectively speaking, of course.

Take me back in time, Jessica. Someone working or living the Stanford, California, comfortable life forever. finds herself flying to Kenya, Uganda. I mean, the only thing I'll correct is, yes, of course, objectively speaking, of course.

And I want to take you there because you're starting this sort of like experiment, right? Can we help these people? And suddenly you're finding yourself dealing with millions of dollars. I'm sure that that takes also your personal growth to start adjusting to this kind of magnitude, if you will. Can you talk a little bit about the beginning, Jessica?

And I want to take you there because you're starting this sort of like experiment, right? Can we help these people? And suddenly you're finding yourself dealing with millions of dollars. I'm sure that that takes also your personal growth to start adjusting to this kind of magnitude, if you will. Can you talk a little bit about the beginning, Jessica?

Like what were some of the hurdles or what were some of the fears that come with this magnitude?

Like what were some of the hurdles or what were some of the fears that come with this magnitude?

How do you balance, Jessica, between sheer panic when the side goes down and actually asking the hard questions to move you forward instead of drowning in the anxiety or the sleepless night?

How do you balance, Jessica, between sheer panic when the side goes down and actually asking the hard questions to move you forward instead of drowning in the anxiety or the sleepless night?

And kid stuff is real. And we'll talk about it. You have four, so, right? Am I right?

And kid stuff is real. And we'll talk about it. You have four, so, right? Am I right?

I just want to go for a second back to Kiva because you were able, and yes, some of it is timing, but you also need to create your own luck, right? And you somehow managed to get in to talk to some really significant people. You just mentioned opera, et cetera, right? Yeah. What do you feel your role as the marketing persona that made that happen?

I just want to go for a second back to Kiva because you were able, and yes, some of it is timing, but you also need to create your own luck, right? And you somehow managed to get in to talk to some really significant people. You just mentioned opera, et cetera, right? Yeah. What do you feel your role as the marketing persona that made that happen?

And I think that also holds you when things are hard. So as a founder, you really need something to lean on. And I think these inspiring stories, which I would love to hear one, but really hold you. And I think you're also talking about respect, like it adds a layer of respect and making decisions from or lending from hope and dreams versus fear or doubt or I want to do you a favor.

And I think that also holds you when things are hard. So as a founder, you really need something to lean on. And I think these inspiring stories, which I would love to hear one, but really hold you. And I think you're also talking about respect, like it adds a layer of respect and making decisions from or lending from hope and dreams versus fear or doubt or I want to do you a favor.

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