Ilana

Oh, my God, this is so powerful. And I think I shared with you, we had Charlie Engel on the show last year, and he crossed, I think, from Morocco to Egypt on the Sahara. And his story was just crazy, crazy. So you guys are in the crazy thing. But it's also interesting to see how being a father, I think a lot of times do change us as being a parent, right?

Oh, my God, this is so powerful. And I think I shared with you, we had Charlie Engel on the show last year, and he crossed, I think, from Morocco to Egypt on the Sahara. And his story was just crazy, crazy. So you guys are in the crazy thing. But it's also interesting to see how being a father, I think a lot of times do change us as being a parent, right?

Like it does create a different level of why it sounds like it did for you.

Like it does create a different level of why it sounds like it did for you.

That's my favorite places on earth.

That's my favorite places on earth.

And I think that's so important because life is in phases and different phases will bring different must-haves or different things that you want out of them. And I love that because I schlepped my kids in all sort of crazy hikes. So I love that for your daughter. And by the way, Ironman is probably your next, you know, you'll just kind of need to tackle that one.

And I think that's so important because life is in phases and different phases will bring different must-haves or different things that you want out of them. And I love that because I schlepped my kids in all sort of crazy hikes. So I love that for your daughter. And by the way, Ironman is probably your next, you know, you'll just kind of need to tackle that one.

I think it's just a tick, honestly. Like, I don't see myself doing it again and again. But one thing that you said that I think is really important, the night before the Iron Man, for some ungodly reason, the place where we stayed actually had a massive party right next door. So we actually couldn't sleep all night. And it was just so annoying.

I think it's just a tick, honestly. Like, I don't see myself doing it again and again. But one thing that you said that I think is really important, the night before the Iron Man, for some ungodly reason, the place where we stayed actually had a massive party right next door. So we actually couldn't sleep all night. And it was just so annoying.

But the interesting thing is, and again, I was sure that it's going to take effect. There's no way I can't now go into this, whatever. For me, it's, I think it was like almost 13 and a half hour ordeal, right? I can't go into this hours and hours of swimming and biking and running. And the truth is it didn't matter. What mattered is the nights before that night, just that was not the thing.

But the interesting thing is, and again, I was sure that it's going to take effect. There's no way I can't now go into this, whatever. For me, it's, I think it was like almost 13 and a half hour ordeal, right? I can't go into this hours and hours of swimming and biking and running. And the truth is it didn't matter. What mattered is the nights before that night, just that was not the thing.

And I think it teaches you something different, right? Like now when I go into the business and sometimes the nights are not great and then you have, you know, I had my kids, this was before my kids and suddenly I had, you know, my kids and suddenly it gave a whole different perspective to not sleeping at night. Like who, so what? You know, like it was just like this whole like,

And I think it teaches you something different, right? Like now when I go into the business and sometimes the nights are not great and then you have, you know, I had my kids, this was before my kids and suddenly I had, you know, my kids and suddenly it gave a whole different perspective to not sleeping at night. Like who, so what? You know, like it was just like this whole like,

So I just resonate so much with all your stories, although I'm still not sure I will ever pursue anything like it. But for everybody listening, I would love to hear, now that you've experienced all these amazing things, if you meet Brian that is either the teacher or even before that, what would be some of the biggest tips that you would want Brian to know that you know today?

So I just resonate so much with all your stories, although I'm still not sure I will ever pursue anything like it. But for everybody listening, I would love to hear, now that you've experienced all these amazing things, if you meet Brian that is either the teacher or even before that, what would be some of the biggest tips that you would want Brian to know that you know today?

Oh, that's powerful. Thank you, Brian. And how do people reach you? I mean, we'll have all the links, but in general...

Oh, that's powerful. Thank you, Brian. And how do people reach you? I mean, we'll have all the links, but in general...

Brian, thank you for a beautiful, beautiful, fascinating episode.

Brian, thank you for a beautiful, beautiful, fascinating episode.