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And I love that distinction, right? Because I think there's also this myth of, let me just sit on the beach all day and create freedom and success. That doesn't happen. You do need to work hard. But sometimes we say life is in phases. Different things will be important for you in different phases of your life. It just go all in, whatever it is. But-

And I love that distinction, right? Because I think there's also this myth of, let me just sit on the beach all day and create freedom and success. That doesn't happen. You do need to work hard. But sometimes we say life is in phases. Different things will be important for you in different phases of your life. It just go all in, whatever it is. But-

You also had, and I'm just curious where it stands for you. There's always this, do you build the brand of the business? Do you build a personal brand? Where do you see that? Because I think you also shifted a little bit and I think it's super fascinating to me.

You also had, and I'm just curious where it stands for you. There's always this, do you build the brand of the business? Do you build a personal brand? Where do you see that? Because I think you also shifted a little bit and I think it's super fascinating to me.

That's exactly what we're doing. And I think that just so important for listeners to understand. You might be posting from a business page, but that usually going to go crickets unless you pay for it. So if you really want to build your own brand, that's going to take you further, but also is going to paint that more authenticity. If people will relate to you better. And I just love that.

That's exactly what we're doing. And I think that just so important for listeners to understand. You might be posting from a business page, but that usually going to go crickets unless you pay for it. So if you really want to build your own brand, that's going to take you further, but also is going to paint that more authenticity. If people will relate to you better. And I just love that.

So for those who don't know Wistia enough, why should they use Wistia versus YouTube? I can tell you what we're used to doing, but I'm curious what you say, Chris.

So for those who don't know Wistia enough, why should they use Wistia versus YouTube? I can tell you what we're used to doing, but I'm curious what you say, Chris.

Incredible, Chris. And for us, I mean, we use it for, you know, a lot of the things that you just mentioned, the webinars. For those who don't know, if you embed a video from YouTube on some kind of other platform, you're usually going to get other recommendations and you don't want to send people off your own website, right? So this is how we started was with Stia.

Incredible, Chris. And for us, I mean, we use it for, you know, a lot of the things that you just mentioned, the webinars. For those who don't know, if you embed a video from YouTube on some kind of other platform, you're usually going to get other recommendations and you don't want to send people off your own website, right? So this is how we started was with Stia.

And from that point on, you know, it became a webinar and so many other things. So I just, I personally love it. Chris, based on everything that you've gone through, what would be an advice to your younger self if you could go back in time?

And from that point on, you know, it became a webinar and so many other things. So I just, I personally love it. Chris, based on everything that you've gone through, what would be an advice to your younger self if you could go back in time?

Ooh, that's really powerful because somehow you have all these experts and the grass always seems greener on the other side. And it's just so easy to be tempted to go in all directions. But eventually nobody really knows except for you. But that's also scary to think about that.

Ooh, that's really powerful because somehow you have all these experts and the grass always seems greener on the other side. And it's just so easy to be tempted to go in all directions. But eventually nobody really knows except for you. But that's also scary to think about that.

Chris, thank you so much for coming to the show, for creating Wistia that we love, and for just sharing this incredible story with our listeners. Thank you so much.

Chris, thank you so much for coming to the show, for creating Wistia that we love, and for just sharing this incredible story with our listeners. Thank you so much.

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