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That's fascinating. I didn't realize that. I just like that there's a name so I can always remember the name. But how do you find leaders these days and how do you hire for them?

That's fascinating. I didn't realize that. I just like that there's a name so I can always remember the name. But how do you find leaders these days and how do you hire for them?

I always say that I like hiring for hunger versus skills because I do believe we can teach a lot of the things, but I need people to be motivated. Do you have some questions that you find that are helping you assess, will somebody be able to function or do you need them to be tested somehow?

I always say that I like hiring for hunger versus skills because I do believe we can teach a lot of the things, but I need people to be motivated. Do you have some questions that you find that are helping you assess, will somebody be able to function or do you need them to be tested somehow?

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Do you think there's something that you went through, whether it's in your childhood or before, that built you to where you are right now?

Do you think there's something that you went through, whether it's in your childhood or before, that built you to where you are right now?

And did you always know that you're a people person? Was that on the horizon all the time? Or is that morph into this is actually my zone of genius. This is what I want.

And did you always know that you're a people person? Was that on the horizon all the time? Or is that morph into this is actually my zone of genius. This is what I want.

If you talk to different professionals and basically our audience, they're thinking one of a few things. First of all, I'm not sure what I want to do, maybe, but let's assume I kind of do. I would love to maybe work with some of these really cool companies. How do I even get in? And even if I do get in, how do I fast track to the leadership roles?

If you talk to different professionals and basically our audience, they're thinking one of a few things. First of all, I'm not sure what I want to do, maybe, but let's assume I kind of do. I would love to maybe work with some of these really cool companies. How do I even get in? And even if I do get in, how do I fast track to the leadership roles?

What would be some of the tips that you would give our listeners?

What would be some of the tips that you would give our listeners?

First of all, John Maxwell said it beautifully with the people's pile, right? There's a huge people's pile trying to get into a lot of these companies. And it's really about that persistence that actually moves the needle and lets you stand out because there is no traffic jam in the extra mile. They will leave. So if you can actually be the person in that extra mile, that helps you stand out.

First of all, John Maxwell said it beautifully with the people's pile, right? There's a huge people's pile trying to get into a lot of these companies. And it's really about that persistence that actually moves the needle and lets you stand out because there is no traffic jam in the extra mile. They will leave. So if you can actually be the person in that extra mile, that helps you stand out.

And it was funny because last week I gave some small talk to Richard Branson and his son, et cetera. And one of the questions that he had is, are you good at delegating? And there's an element where you literally need to fire yourself from your previous role in order to be better at a new role, right?

And it was funny because last week I gave some small talk to Richard Branson and his son, et cetera. And one of the questions that he had is, are you good at delegating? And there's an element where you literally need to fire yourself from your previous role in order to be better at a new role, right?