Ilana

I think we would used to call them the near-death experiences. There's like moments where you feel like the whole world is collapsing on you, which, like you said, eventually you wake up in the morning and you see, oh, it didn't collapse. But what helped you get up when it does feel like those hard moments can feel pretty suffocating, I would say?

I think we would used to call them the near-death experiences. There's like moments where you feel like the whole world is collapsing on you, which, like you said, eventually you wake up in the morning and you see, oh, it didn't collapse. But what helped you get up when it does feel like those hard moments can feel pretty suffocating, I would say?

But co-founder is also tricky, right? I know a lot of co-founders that just pulled themselves together downwards, right? So how do you navigate a co-founder and maybe talk just a little bit about how that worked with acquisition for you?

But co-founder is also tricky, right? I know a lot of co-founders that just pulled themselves together downwards, right? So how do you navigate a co-founder and maybe talk just a little bit about how that worked with acquisition for you?

Tell me a little bit, you sell this company, the first company to Disney. For some ungodly reason, you decide to move to Paris and learn to code. Did I get this right, Andrew?

Tell me a little bit, you sell this company, the first company to Disney. For some ungodly reason, you decide to move to Paris and learn to code. Did I get this right, Andrew?

You alluded to it in the previous question, but I mean, you worked in, I don't know, Paris, Spain, Silicon Valley, Australia. I'm sure there's many that I'm missing. And you're definitely seeing some culture differences that are very substantial. First of all, how do you adapt?

You alluded to it in the previous question, but I mean, you worked in, I don't know, Paris, Spain, Silicon Valley, Australia. I'm sure there's many that I'm missing. And you're definitely seeing some culture differences that are very substantial. First of all, how do you adapt?

But also what are some of these culture differences beyond their readiness for entrepreneurship or not wanting to work hard? Because for us, it's like, yeah, midnight is normal. Let's go. Yeah. So how is that?

But also what are some of these culture differences beyond their readiness for entrepreneurship or not wanting to work hard? Because for us, it's like, yeah, midnight is normal. Let's go. Yeah. So how is that?

I think there is this thing to look for the easy button these days because we see all these successes on social media. They all look like an overnight success. They just don't realize the decade that came beforehand of really, really hard work. So looking for that easy button just doesn't really exist. You can have freedom, but after... It just can't be at the same time.

I think there is this thing to look for the easy button these days because we see all these successes on social media. They all look like an overnight success. They just don't realize the decade that came beforehand of really, really hard work. So looking for that easy button just doesn't really exist. You can have freedom, but after... It just can't be at the same time.

And even I know people that sold for a lot of money, the companies, but it does not go to your pocket. So the majority of it disappears, even if it has a lot of zeros there. So we are seeing a lot of these stories, but it sounds very glamorous. Oh my God, they sold for a multimillion. Yeah, but most of it did not go to the founder.

And even I know people that sold for a lot of money, the companies, but it does not go to your pocket. So the majority of it disappears, even if it has a lot of zeros there. So we are seeing a lot of these stories, but it sounds very glamorous. Oh my God, they sold for a multimillion. Yeah, but most of it did not go to the founder.

So there's a little element there that I think is also some preconceived notion that

So there's a little element there that I think is also some preconceived notion that

So I want to actually take you there, Andrew, because at some point you decide, you know, we can talk a little bit about that second company, but you're basically starting the third, right? Which is Pernuvo. And there was a little bit of a reflection of which idea do I want to chase next, right?

So I want to actually take you there, Andrew, because at some point you decide, you know, we can talk a little bit about that second company, but you're basically starting the third, right? Which is Pernuvo. And there was a little bit of a reflection of which idea do I want to chase next, right?

Take us there a little bit, Andrew, because I think a lot of our listeners are exactly in that crossroad of what do I want to do next? And maybe I do want impact and maybe I do want to change the world, but I just don't know how.

Take us there a little bit, Andrew, because I think a lot of our listeners are exactly in that crossroad of what do I want to do next? And maybe I do want impact and maybe I do want to change the world, but I just don't know how.