Ilana

It becomes comfortable to stay stuck and it becomes harder to get out of the stuckness. You have a beautiful story of you come to study film, you come to the U.S., which I think it's out of your comfort zone as well. So leaving Greece, leaving the family, coming to the U.S., so you already had that drive. But something caused you to then push yourself and start compromising.

It becomes comfortable to stay stuck and it becomes harder to get out of the stuckness. You have a beautiful story of you come to study film, you come to the U.S., which I think it's out of your comfort zone as well. So leaving Greece, leaving the family, coming to the U.S., so you already had that drive. But something caused you to then push yourself and start compromising.

Talk to us a little bit about that. Because again, a lot of our listeners are people that are driven. They're like you. They want more. And they're suddenly found yourselves a fraction of who they could be. And they're not sure how to get out of that.

Talk to us a little bit about that. Because again, a lot of our listeners are people that are driven. They're like you. They want more. And they're suddenly found yourselves a fraction of who they could be. And they're not sure how to get out of that.

It's so easy to talk about, so hard to do. And somehow you're starting to work with Tom on Quest and you're starting to take more and more responsibility, including management, and you never learned any of it. It's totally out of your comfort zone. Lisa, can you talk a little bit about this shift?

It's so easy to talk about, so hard to do. And somehow you're starting to work with Tom on Quest and you're starting to take more and more responsibility, including management, and you never learned any of it. It's totally out of your comfort zone. Lisa, can you talk a little bit about this shift?

Because it's a massive shift, you know, especially when you hear those eight years and where your confidence is. How did that shift suddenly happen?

Because it's a massive shift, you know, especially when you hear those eight years and where your confidence is. How did that shift suddenly happen?

Oh, that is to me so, so, so important, Lisa, right now, because one of the things that I see continuously in your book and in everything that you do is that emotional intelligence, that EQ and those instincts, that you somehow able to figure things out completely out of the box. It's not something that is learned. It's more experimentation, I guess. And it's just figure things out.

Oh, that is to me so, so, so important, Lisa, right now, because one of the things that I see continuously in your book and in everything that you do is that emotional intelligence, that EQ and those instincts, that you somehow able to figure things out completely out of the box. It's not something that is learned. It's more experimentation, I guess. And it's just figure things out.

And what I love about that, and I wanna make sure the listeners are hearing this, Again, this is not about a college degree. It's not about something in a book. It's really about just taking action, just figuring things out, just trying things out, just being able to get out of your comfort zone, try different things. It's just so beautiful because

And what I love about that, and I wanna make sure the listeners are hearing this, Again, this is not about a college degree. It's not about something in a book. It's really about just taking action, just figuring things out, just trying things out, just being able to get out of your comfort zone, try different things. It's just so beautiful because

You have multiple stories like this of how you got to ship things faster and you were the candy person and you have all these things that every time it's like, wow, genius. But again, it's more about knowing your audience, understanding what they care about, understanding what will move the needle and being able to be that person that is in the extra mile. There is no traffic in the extra mile.

You have multiple stories like this of how you got to ship things faster and you were the candy person and you have all these things that every time it's like, wow, genius. But again, it's more about knowing your audience, understanding what they care about, understanding what will move the needle and being able to be that person that is in the extra mile. There is no traffic in the extra mile.

You were there. Thank you. Yeah.

You were there. Thank you. Yeah.

I am a little woozy, I guess. But I'm not in control, which I hate it.

I am a little woozy, I guess. But I'm not in control, which I hate it.

Which is the most important piece because that's what takes you away. But I think one of the things that you're talking is that extreme ownership that no matter what, you are looking in the mirror and you're really, really honest with where am I? Can I make this decision? Do I need to take action in a different way?

Which is the most important piece because that's what takes you away. But I think one of the things that you're talking is that extreme ownership that no matter what, you are looking in the mirror and you're really, really honest with where am I? Can I make this decision? Do I need to take action in a different way?