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Oh my God, I love these nuggets. I was totally writing this down because I never thought about it as a trust battery, but it's so true and it's so accurate.

Oh my God, I love these nuggets. I was totally writing this down because I never thought about it as a trust battery, but it's so true and it's so accurate.

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And the other thing, Harley, that I believe from everything that I've seen with Shopify through the years, culture has also been a big play for you, right? Aligning with the mission, believing in a mission, aligning the people and the culture to the mission. Can you talk a little bit about that, Harley?

And the other thing, Harley, that I believe from everything that I've seen with Shopify through the years, culture has also been a big play for you, right? Aligning with the mission, believing in a mission, aligning the people and the culture to the mission. Can you talk a little bit about that, Harley?

And that's incredible. And by the way, it's interesting because we feel your passion, right? Like, I mean, I think everybody listening and people seeing it on YouTube, like you see the passion. It's contagious. Yeah. It has to be. I don't think you can fake it.

And that's incredible. And by the way, it's interesting because we feel your passion, right? Like, I mean, I think everybody listening and people seeing it on YouTube, like you see the passion. It's contagious. Yeah. It has to be. I don't think you can fake it.

But what you said, I think is really, really important here in terms of when you talk about that zone of genius and that luxury, I remember one of my hardest moments was as you climb up the ladder, VP, whatever, you get the salary, it's very comfortable. And even though it's killing you from the inside, you are feeling ungrateful, right? I have a roof over my head. I'm paying my kids.

But what you said, I think is really, really important here in terms of when you talk about that zone of genius and that luxury, I remember one of my hardest moments was as you climb up the ladder, VP, whatever, you get the salary, it's very comfortable. And even though it's killing you from the inside, you are feeling ungrateful, right? I have a roof over my head. I'm paying my kids.

Why am I ungrateful? Why am I not happy? And so, first of all, it comes with a little bit of shame around how can I not be satisfied and grateful? And on the other hand, it's that nudge that actually made me leap and start Leap Academy, entrepreneurship, et cetera. And that created, I've never been this happy in my life. So how do you balance between that?

Why am I ungrateful? Why am I not happy? And so, first of all, it comes with a little bit of shame around how can I not be satisfied and grateful? And on the other hand, it's that nudge that actually made me leap and start Leap Academy, entrepreneurship, et cetera. And that created, I've never been this happy in my life. So how do you balance between that?

You know, I would love to eventually also talk about that COO role because I think that's also part of the story.

You know, I would love to eventually also talk about that COO role because I think that's also part of the story.

That's brilliant, the tour of duty. And I think a lot of it is hardly experimentation anyway, right? Because whatever you studied at age 20 is irrelevant to what you're doing usually anyway. So if you don't experiment, how can you tell? But talk to us a little bit about COVID because there was definitely some changes that needed to happen. It was a stressful time for everybody.

That's brilliant, the tour of duty. And I think a lot of it is hardly experimentation anyway, right? Because whatever you studied at age 20 is irrelevant to what you're doing usually anyway. So if you don't experiment, how can you tell? But talk to us a little bit about COVID because there was definitely some changes that needed to happen. It was a stressful time for everybody.

Retailers were closing doors in many cases. Can you talk a little bit about it?

Retailers were closing doors in many cases. Can you talk a little bit about it?