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So if you're listening to this, I want you to lean in because Chemi's story right now is just becoming even better. But it was from that hard moment that it sort of catapulted you to a different place. But talk to me for a second, if that's okay, about that moment. How do you get yourself back up? And how do you decide?

So if you're listening to this, I want you to lean in because Chemi's story right now is just becoming even better. But it was from that hard moment that it sort of catapulted you to a different place. But talk to me for a second, if that's okay, about that moment. How do you get yourself back up? And how do you decide?

And entrepreneurship was not very common, especially not venture capital, Kemi, when you started this. So... First of all, how do you recover from that humiliation and how do you leap into something that is basically scary because not many has done it before. You didn't know if it's going to pay the bills. You didn't know if it's going to hold your growing family.

And entrepreneurship was not very common, especially not venture capital, Kemi, when you started this. So... First of all, how do you recover from that humiliation and how do you leap into something that is basically scary because not many has done it before. You didn't know if it's going to pay the bills. You didn't know if it's going to hold your growing family.

Like, how do you not hide behind the fear?

Like, how do you not hide behind the fear?

And that's around the 90s, right, Remy, for people who are listening?

And that's around the 90s, right, Remy, for people who are listening?

And Khamenei, we'll talk about it because you don't just invest in startups. You completely change the ecosystem in Israel. But I want to go there for a second because it's very, very different to be an operator versus an investor. You need to look at different things.

And Khamenei, we'll talk about it because you don't just invest in startups. You completely change the ecosystem in Israel. But I want to go there for a second because it's very, very different to be an operator versus an investor. You need to look at different things.

You need to not run to the solutions, but you want to actually look at the problems and to look at why people didn't realize some of these things, et cetera. What do you see as the differences or what was the learning curve in terms of what's going to make it, what's not going to make it, the pace of change or the pace of knowing if something will work out is different in venture capital.

You need to not run to the solutions, but you want to actually look at the problems and to look at why people didn't realize some of these things, et cetera. What do you see as the differences or what was the learning curve in terms of what's going to make it, what's not going to make it, the pace of change or the pace of knowing if something will work out is different in venture capital.

How do you see the differences?

How do you see the differences?

I'll show you in a few years.

I'll show you in a few years.

You've seen a lot in those years. As somebody that is basically creating this big venture capital very early on, what are some of the big challenges that you ran into that you needed to overcome?

You've seen a lot in those years. As somebody that is basically creating this big venture capital very early on, what are some of the big challenges that you ran into that you needed to overcome?

It's fascinating to me because you've seen so much, but you also have seen a full country move from something that nobody barely knows anything about venture capital to the startup nation. Are there moments where it's especially in the beginning that you're like, you know what? This is dumb. I'm not going to do this. This is ridiculous.

It's fascinating to me because you've seen so much, but you also have seen a full country move from something that nobody barely knows anything about venture capital to the startup nation. Are there moments where it's especially in the beginning that you're like, you know what? This is dumb. I'm not going to do this. This is ridiculous.