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And by the way, for those who don't know, he was a big part of why Zappos was acquired for 1.2 billion, right? Or whatever, right? So, I mean, definitely ticked all the boxes of success. Yes.

And by the way, for those who don't know, he was a big part of why Zappos was acquired for 1.2 billion, right? Or whatever, right? So, I mean, definitely ticked all the boxes of success. Yes.

I appreciate your sharing because I think for all of us, this was a really shocking moment. And I think it also brought a lot of the mental anxiety and things to surface. Actually, one of the most interesting conversations I had here on the podcast was the president of Starbucks. And he basically said that the minute he retired, he almost killed himself. And I was just like, what?

I appreciate your sharing because I think for all of us, this was a really shocking moment. And I think it also brought a lot of the mental anxiety and things to surface. Actually, one of the most interesting conversations I had here on the podcast was the president of Starbucks. And he basically said that the minute he retired, he almost killed himself. And I was just like, what?

You were the president of Starbucks. That's like the ultimate success. And he's like, I lost so much relevance. I couldn't live with that. And I think just hearing that and realizing the impact of just what you're saying, losing that passion and losing who you are and who you want to become and continue to become is just a really interesting realization.

You were the president of Starbucks. That's like the ultimate success. And he's like, I lost so much relevance. I couldn't live with that. And I think just hearing that and realizing the impact of just what you're saying, losing that passion and losing who you are and who you want to become and continue to become is just a really interesting realization.

Right. And I agree because that emptiness was there for me when my first company was acquired. And To some extent, Leap Academy is part of that. Like I had to reinvent myself, figure out what on earth do I want to do next and how do I take myself to the next level? And I think I was like, how is there no home for me, for somebody like me? Very driven. It's not about who you can do it.

Right. And I agree because that emptiness was there for me when my first company was acquired. And To some extent, Leap Academy is part of that. Like I had to reinvent myself, figure out what on earth do I want to do next and how do I take myself to the next level? And I think I was like, how is there no home for me, for somebody like me? Very driven. It's not about who you can do it.

I'm like, I know I can do it. I just don't know what. And I was just like, how is it not possible? And I think this is a big part of that emptiness. So, oh my God, I love this conversation. I can probably talk to you for hours. But what is something that if you look back at Elizabeth earlier in your career, what would you want somebody to tell you? What advice would you give to yourself?

I'm like, I know I can do it. I just don't know what. And I was just like, how is it not possible? And I think this is a big part of that emptiness. So, oh my God, I love this conversation. I can probably talk to you for hours. But what is something that if you look back at Elizabeth earlier in your career, what would you want somebody to tell you? What advice would you give to yourself?

Ooh, I love that, Elizabeth. I think that's brilliant. I mean, I think Leap Academy does talk a lot about portfolio careers because I think that's kind of where the future is going anyway. People will do multiple things, whether it's investing or public speaking or writing a book or whatever, like people will do multiple things in their life.

Ooh, I love that, Elizabeth. I think that's brilliant. I mean, I think Leap Academy does talk a lot about portfolio careers because I think that's kind of where the future is going anyway. People will do multiple things, whether it's investing or public speaking or writing a book or whatever, like people will do multiple things in their life.

And I don't know why nobody teaches that, but it's a really interesting idea to also for a small amount to play with understanding the investment and creating portfolio and getting the network. And so I just love that idea. Thank you so much for this amazing conversation, Elizabeth. I had a blast and I hope the listeners did too. Thank you.

And I don't know why nobody teaches that, but it's a really interesting idea to also for a small amount to play with understanding the investment and creating portfolio and getting the network. And so I just love that idea. Thank you so much for this amazing conversation, Elizabeth. I had a blast and I hope the listeners did too. Thank you.

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