Illia Polosukhin

AIs will bridge this gap in many cases into traditional world, into traditional bureaucracy, into traditional systems.

And obviously, we've been working on bridging fiat and crypto for a long time as well.

And I think we are in the first time in the world where this, I mean, like in crypto timeline, right?

This is actually not anymore feels like an uphill battle.

between the kind of political and genius act, et cetera.

So I think it's going to fuse effectively quicker and quicker.

Mm-hmm.

when we found it yet yeah i mean i think that's a that's an interesting point and i think it there's a lot of different aspects here that that's worth digging in i think first first let's start with open claw because that that's kind of been something that i think opened up the world to like hey this is not just coding tools this is not just question answering system it can actually go and do stuff it can figure out how to build its own components to do more stuff right

The flip side of this, nobody's actually willing to give it all of the context and information and access that it needs to be like a true employee because you're afraid it's going to mess it up.

Yeah, so I think for OpenClaw and kind of this Claw family specifically, I think the security in a broader sense, not just like is the biggest bottleneck right now.

And so that's why we started IronClaw, which is like, hey, how do we actually build a secure system

How do we leverage all the knowledge we have from blockchain and use the kind of the principles we have there to apply here?

And again, think of it as an operating system, right?

Like, for example, you know, Linux is more secure than Windows because of the design architecture.

iOS is actually even more secure, right?

And iOS took a lot of very specific, deliberate choices how to protect the user even from themselves, right?

And so how do we actually apply those principles?

So the way I think of Ironclaw is actually like, what is that iOS moment of mobile operating systems, right?

Like, we're kind of in this, like, Palm Pilot moment right now.

Like, what is that iOS moment where everybody's like, I can install anything from App Store, and it just works, and I don't need to worry that I'm going to, like, infect viruses on my device, right?