Ilya Fushman

They buy electricity in bulk, and they would argue there's a deflationary impact for everyday people's energy prices.

There's also a lot of Bloomberg reporting and investigation that shows in zip codes where there's a high concentration of data center, electricity prices have gone up and energy prices have gone up.

What do you see, the real on-the-ground view of that?

Yeah, my home in Ashburn, Virginia, our electricity prices have gone up.

And it's because we had to pay for that infrastructure.

They're not taking that cost into account.

So, yes, you bring more energy infrastructure.

It'll, on long term, lower costs.

But when we have to pay up front for that energy infrastructure, it raises our utility prices.

So that needs to change.

We need to make sure that communities aren't subsidizing the data center's energies.

Again, we can do this.

A lot of companies are actually volunteering to do this, to be able to pay for their own energy infrastructure.

I like that idea.

That's going to help a lot.

That's the type of thing we need to be doing when it comes to getting community buy-in.

What is your view of your constituents and the American people's relationship with AI?

I think Caroline and I have had a lot of conversations in the last 24 hours where

AI doesn't have very much good PR at the moment with everyday Americans.

One thing that Sean Sankar, he's the CTO at Palantir, put to us is that there's a distinction between what is AI slop, what people see in their social media feeds, and how they actually might benefit from it in their working and at-home lives.