Imam Mohammad Tawhidi

and including Hassan Nasrallah, the former Secretary General of Hezbollah.

They all studied on Qom.

Now Qom is a seminary that has education that is basic, intermediary, and somewhat entry-level into the advanced studies.

People usually finish their studies in Qom and then head over to Najaf in Iraq, which is the main ancient seminary for Shia Muslims in the world.

And that's a thousand years old.

When it comes to Qom, Qom was an open society.

An open seminary where you had mosques and Islamic centers and you had a cleric, a senior cleric who had 20, 30, up to a thousand students sit around him and he would speak about theology, Islamic law, doctrine, ethics, mysticism, you name it.

Come the Iranian revolution of 1979, and by the way, it's not an Iranian revolution.

There's nothing Iranian about it.

The listeners need to know that Khomeini was an Indian man, right?

He's not even Iranian, but it was a Islamist revolution, not an Islamic revolution, an Islamist revolution.

Coming to the 1979, Khomeini understood that he had to do something about these clerics.

He had to do something about Islamic law that is governing Iran and governing society.

So what he did was, is that he turned these freestyle education circles and systems into institutions.

And he turned the seminary into a university.

And he called it Al-Mustafa International University.

The university which I studied in,

And I should say, Patrick, one of the best decisions I made in my life, as I always say, was withdrawing from that university.

Why is that?

Because it is the university that is ruled by the IRGC, ruled by the...