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The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

That's what consulting does, okay?

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

So you draw from the best and the brightest.

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

And then while they're in the company moving ahead, make sure that barriers that exist to their success are removed.

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

Because once you attack somebody's confidence, it attacks their competence, right?

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

So if a woman is presenting and you roll your eyes at her, or when she's presenting you cut her off, or she says something and you cut her off, or, you know, I've seen this often.

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

Somebody will say, oh, yeah, this is so theoretical when a woman presents.

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

When a man says the same thing, I say, oh, God, that's so brilliant.

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

So these things happen as a matter of practice in companies.

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

Women, people of color, when they present, they do go through some bad behavior.

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

I'm talking of then.

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

Things have changed a lot now.

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

But in those days, it did happen.

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

And so when those things happen, you've got to figure out a way to call those people out right there and say, hey, can you let her finish?

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

Can you let this person articulate their point of view before you cut them off?

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

Will you stop rolling your eyes when she's presenting?

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

Because you can feel the person rolling their eyes.

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

So if you really value every talent for what it is,

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

meritocracy, bring them all in, allow them all to thrive, then everybody has the confidence to continue to contribute.

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

But if you have all these unconscious biases that impact people who are different, then they lose their confidence.

The Knowledge Project
Indra Nooyi: Lessons from the Top of PepsiCo—and the Cost of Getting There

And once you lose your confidence, you no longer feel comfortable.