Investigator

It just confirmed that we had the right guy.

Correct. I think you have bad facts in almost every case. So those are just hurdles that we had to overcome by other circumstantial evidence that we had.

Correct. I think you have bad facts in almost every case. So those are just hurdles that we had to overcome by other circumstantial evidence that we had.

I am not the person asked to explain the criminal psychology of one's mind that convinces them that they need to kill two little girls. I don't think anything in his past would justify or explain why he did this.

I am not the person asked to explain the criminal psychology of one's mind that convinces them that they need to kill two little girls. I don't think anything in his past would justify or explain why he did this.

My openings are always very, very short and very, very to the point. I would rather just keep the jury kind of on the hook.

My openings are always very, very short and very, very to the point. I would rather just keep the jury kind of on the hook.

He went out to the trails that day. He laid in wait. He then saw the two girls, forced them down the hill with a firearm. We believe there's a sexual assault that was going to occur. And then we believe he got spooked and he decided to kill them. He left the crime scene and continued on with his life.

He went out to the trails that day. He laid in wait. He then saw the two girls, forced them down the hill with a firearm. We believe there's a sexual assault that was going to occur. And then we believe he got spooked and he decided to kill them. He left the crime scene and continued on with his life.

The bullet to me was huge because it tied Richard Allen to the crime scene where the girls were found. Racking the gun in that situation would be such a powerful statement that if you don't do what I say, I am going to shoot you or I am going to hurt you. And so we just believe that was how he was able to control the girls with this firearm.

The bullet to me was huge because it tied Richard Allen to the crime scene where the girls were found. Racking the gun in that situation would be such a powerful statement that if you don't do what I say, I am going to shoot you or I am going to hurt you. And so we just believe that was how he was able to control the girls with this firearm.

I agree. In her dying moment, she had to wear with all to pull that phone out and take a video and help solve her own crime.

I agree. In her dying moment, she had to wear with all to pull that phone out and take a video and help solve her own crime.

Just a strategic move.

Just a strategic move.

There's always that fear they're going to say that. But we had in our minds what we want to identify as bridge guy and then tie in that Richard Allen is bridge guy. That was our strategy from day one.

There's always that fear they're going to say that. But we had in our minds what we want to identify as bridge guy and then tie in that Richard Allen is bridge guy. That was our strategy from day one.

We believed he was on the trails from 1.30 to 3.30 like he had originally said in 2017. In 2022, he changed that from 12.30 to 1.30. McCleland also played Richard Allen's voice in court.

We believed he was on the trails from 1.30 to 3.30 like he had originally said in 2017. In 2022, he changed that from 12.30 to 1.30. McCleland also played Richard Allen's voice in court.

When you heard that, did you think, game over? It just confirmed that we had the right guy.