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No, I'm by myself. We put a wire on her. She calls Shelby. And Shelby's not really biting, but... before Shelby completely ends the phone call, Lisa says to her, you know, to the effect like, you know, Shelby, I'm really getting worried. And, you know, I don't know what you did. And I don't know what you did to Kevin. And she's getting these out.
And Shelby says to her at one point, you know, Lisa, I don't know what you're doing. And I don't know where you are. But you better remember we're in this together.
And Shelby says to her at one point, you know, Lisa, I don't know what you're doing. And I don't know where you are. But you better remember we're in this together.
I got you. I told you, Shelby, this day would come, did I not?
I got you. I told you, Shelby, this day would come, did I not?
Once they're incarcerated, they weren't in the same cell, but they continue writing letters to each other, Lisa and Shelby now. But they write them in code. So the letters are coded. And their love letters to each other and how much they love each other and they're still going to be together. And that was the whole thing, you know, was to be together.
Once they're incarcerated, they weren't in the same cell, but they continue writing letters to each other, Lisa and Shelby now. But they write them in code. So the letters are coded. And their love letters to each other and how much they love each other and they're still going to be together. And that was the whole thing, you know, was to be together.
And so, you know, they just had to get through this trial and be found not guilty. And then their day would come kind of thing. And so it was all about being together.
And so, you know, they just had to get through this trial and be found not guilty. And then their day would come kind of thing. And so it was all about being together.
They were all found guilty. Lisa, her sentence was 25 years to life. She is now out on parole. And Shelby and Terrence both got life without parole, and they are both still in custody.
They were all found guilty. Lisa, her sentence was 25 years to life. She is now out on parole. And Shelby and Terrence both got life without parole, and they are both still in custody.
The single most question, and from day one, everybody that I ever talked to about this case says, why didn't she just divorce him? She's worried about her reputation. She's worried about what her parents think. Her parents were pretty religious. Her and Shelby having an affair was never going to fly. With her family, with her friends, with her kids, with anybody.
The single most question, and from day one, everybody that I ever talked to about this case says, why didn't she just divorce him? She's worried about her reputation. She's worried about what her parents think. Her parents were pretty religious. Her and Shelby having an affair was never going to fly. With her family, with her friends, with her kids, with anybody.
It's just the background she came from.
It's just the background she came from.
I can definitely say that this is one of the most memorable cases. And I would say probably the one that I'm proudest of, really, because there was no evidence. This was truly... detective work to me. This is what an investigation should have been. It wasn't send some DNA swabs off, send some foot impressions off.
I can definitely say that this is one of the most memorable cases. And I would say probably the one that I'm proudest of, really, because there was no evidence. This was truly... detective work to me. This is what an investigation should have been. It wasn't send some DNA swabs off, send some foot impressions off.
It was myself and my partners working together and just keeping at it like every single day until we solved it.
It was myself and my partners working together and just keeping at it like every single day until we solved it.
Accepting a plea agreement for two life sentences, first degree murder, David had to stand before the victim's loved ones, the Goyenas, and he had to admit to killing Angel and Vonda.