Ira Glass

President Trump did not say, OK, here's the guy who actually won the election.

Here's the woman who leads the opposition that he's part of, Nobel Peace Prize winner Maria Karina Machado.

Let's finally put them in power.

Which made me wonder, what do all those Venezuelans who were part of this big organized movement to vote Maduro out of power and prove that they won, who did all that so, so well, what do they think of the events of the last week?

What's this been like for them?

Are they angry?

Do they see any hope that they might get a shot?

Well, Nancy Updike and reporter Ana Yancey Diaz-Cortez reached out to one of those people and talked to her.

She said all kinds of interesting and eye-opening things that we have not heard elsewhere in the coverage.

So what you're about to hear, you'll hear Ana Yancey interpreting.

She's helped us with all of our Venezuela coverage.

And what you're going to hear is her live translation recorded during the conversation.

So it's not word for word exact, but it's close.

Because this conversation is so of this moment, we thought it made the most sense to put it out now and not wait for some theme or something.

Hence this extra episode this week that you're listening to.

Here's Nancy Updike.

Nancy Updike is one of the producers of our show.

Since she did this interview, the Venezuelan government has released some political prisoners.

The government of Delce Rodriguez has been talking about expanding diplomatic ties with the United States.

President Trump has said that Venezuela cannot hold elections until the United States can, quote, rebuild the country.