Ira Glass

I mean, the government would say that they went to attack an ICE facility.

In fact, one of the defendants did shoot a local police officer and that officer was wounded.

And the government's arguing that these defendants were organized.

They're part of an Antifa cell.

This is the government's big case where they're hoping to show that there is an Antifa.

It's a domestic terror group and you can win big convictions on that.

Right.

And so the judge is asking these potential jurors, what are your feelings about ICE?

And the way he asks, it's like, do any of you have strong feelings about what ICE is doing?

Pro or con is what he says.

And he sort of has people raise their hands.

But juror after juror is raising their hand and they're saying, yes, I am very upset about what ICE is doing.

I do not like what ICE is doing.

So...

This is Tarrant County, Texas.

It's like a purple district in the middle of the country.

And this is like the definition of a random sample of people.

But at least according to people around me, like local reporters and people who live in the area, this doesn't sound like Tarrant County, Texas to them.

Just person after person saying they're upset about ICE.

And, you know, I don't know, like the judge did bring up Minneapolis.