Ira Glass

Hence this extra episode this week that you're listening to.

Here's Nancy Updike.

Nancy Updike is one of the producers of our show.

Since she did this interview, the Venezuelan government has released some political prisoners.

The government of Delce Rodriguez has been talking about expanding diplomatic ties with the United States.

President Trump has said that Venezuela cannot hold elections until the United States can, quote, rebuild the country.

This mini-episode was put together by Nancy, with Ana Yancey Diaz-Cortez, Lars Darcheski, Dorothy Kronick, Helena Carpio, Stone Nelson, Suzanne Gabber, and me.

We have a whole new regular episode this week.

As I said, it's really good.

It's fun.

It's called New Lord Drop.

Keep an eye out for that.

It should be in your feed right now.

Thanks for listening.

This is Ira Glass.

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