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Irving Finkel

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

So you had the range of things clustered around what we call a consonant.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

So they had all those for all the letters, which gave them a basic system.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

There was much more to it than that, and it was more complicated than that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

We don't have to really go into it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

But basically, if you are a Babylonian,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

And we want to write the word museum, which of course is one of the most important words in the English language and other languages too.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

So what you would do is you would write the syllable moo and then the sign z and then the sign um.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

So you split the word up into its component syllables.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

When you read it in your mind, you squash them together into museum.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

That's the basic system.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

They had other signs which gave you a clue as to the meaning and bits around the edge, but it's basically syllabic writing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

So when you go to university to study cuneiform,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

What you have to learn is all the signs and all their values.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

Because, unfortunately, they didn't just have one for each.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

They had multiple ones.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

And the reason is not that they were mad or they wanted to make life hell, but because the syllables derive from the writing of Sumerian words.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

So the Sumerian vocabulary had a lot of words that were probably differentiated by tone.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

So you might have bar, and then a rising R, and then a lowering.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

And these signs all retain the bar value, even though there were no tones.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 – Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

So it means if you look at a sign list, there's a lot of signs.