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Irving Finkel

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

high-level, top, and then there were lots of professional scribes, and then the kids who left school as soon as possible and did all that, like today.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

That's a really interesting question.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

In terms of richness of vocabulary and richness of verbal subtlety,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

I think Babylonian rivals Arabic and, of course, English.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

In other words, you can say whatever you want in English, however subtle it might be, even if people don't understand the subtlety.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

You can, because the tools are fantastic.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

And Arabic has lots of synonyms and lots of devices.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

Same in Babylonian.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

It was a fully-fledged literary language.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

The question about whether the language put a stop to further things, which is basically what you're asking, is immensely complicated.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

But the one thing that strikes me as relevant is that a very huge proportion of

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

scholarly literature in mesopotamia it takes the form of omens because they believe that events accidental or deliberately stimulated had implications for what was going to happen and they took omens from things in the sky and things in the street and every single thing if you were a well-qualified diviner would have this significance right

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

Now, there are thousands of lines of omens of all different kinds.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

And in Akkadian, it says, for example, if a lizard runs across the breakfast table, the queen will die.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

So if you translate the Akkadian this way, the word if, verb and everything, if that, then this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

So there are thousands of lines translated in many books about omens where if this happens, that will happen.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

So this is how it's understood by my colleagues.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

But this is absolutely impossible.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

Because if you're the chief diviner for the king and you open up a sheep to take a liver out and examine it according to the queen's going to die and the king's there, you're not going to say the queen's going to die.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#487 โ€“ Irving Finkel: Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations & Flood Myths

I mean, you're going to look like a fucking idiot if she does.