Iso Joe Johnson

You know what the equivalent to me would be, Unc?

You know what the equivalent to me would be, Unc?

What's that?

What's that?

is he's like what Barry Sanders is.

is he's like what Barry Sanders is.

Barry just doesn't have the numbers.

Barry just doesn't have the numbers.

He doesn't have the trophies and the hardware to support how great he was.

He doesn't have the trophies and the hardware to support how great he was.

And I think that's the thing, Ocho.

And I think that's the thing, Ocho.

When you look at it, when you look at the trophies, you look at the league, the World Cup gold, obviously, that gave him a notch above.

When you look at it, when you look at the trophies, you look at the league, the World Cup gold, obviously, that gave him a notch above.

Let's just say we're starting from a dead heat.

Let's just say we're starting from a dead heat.

Yes.

Yes.

And we look at the Bullen Award winners, I think, what is it, eight to five?

And we look at the Bullen Award winners, I think, what is it, eight to five?