Israel Keyes

And I would debunk it, debunk it, debunk it.

And then it would always default to, yeah,

well, I had an ex-boyfriend just like him and I could see where he would have done this.

And you can't, you know, there's a visceral quality to that where you just can't get over it.

And this interview, I mean, you've captured my sentiment exactly.

I tell people, funny, I suppose we may talk about Alec Baldwin, the idea that somehow you need to go out and do an interview and you need to

curate your image, so to speak, when you're in the eye of the storm is I can't think of worst advice consistently.

The only guy who ever did it with any success ultimately was Robert Blake.

And other than that, I can't give you an example where it worked out well for somebody to go do an interview while they're pre-charging or while the prosecutor's making decisions.

It just makes no sense whatsoever.

Well, you know what the counter to that is?

Look, I'm with you.

The first time I heard it, I said, how are we ever going to get over this?

But then in talking with him, he said, look, I understood that the minute Amber surfaced, that the minute she came out, all bets were off.

They were going to stop looking for Lacey.

I had to do something.

I had to keep her on ice, hoping that we would find Lacey, and then that would solve the problem.

And I...

I, you know, I've often said people say, well, how can you you're drinking the Kool-Aid, you're inside, you know, you're psychotic.

How could you believe this?