Israel Keyes

Well, it depends.

I don't know if Doug was playing around on the side, but, you know, so.

tea did not what do you know what no i don't want to i don't want to i don't want to ruin a what appears to be a very happy marriage so i you never know but look the i i always advise clients if you want to take a polygraph i'm going to do it with my guy first i mean polygraphs are notoriously um

a slipshod there's a reason there's a code section that doesn't allow them in and there's people who know how to pass them and people who would never pass them even if you are telling the truth so to me it doesn't make a whole lot of sense i i still come back to or circle back there is no evidence there's absolutely no evidence of anything that shows where how or when

And by the way, we did a demonstration in that boat of trying to toss a body over.

It would have capsized every time.

The judge would not allow that demonstration to be admitted into evidence, which I thought was outrageous because he allowed it a prosecution demonstration that did not replicate it.

Also, on the fishing on Christmas Eve, it came out in trial.

I never knew this.

That...

Lacey's stepfather was fishing on Christmas Eve as well.

He had never disclosed that, even though people were saying, who goes fishing on Christmas Eve?

So there's a lot of things.

You can always weave together things that don't look right.

But at the end of the day, this is not this is a guy who's got absolutely nothing, a complete pristine background.

And if you think he just committed cold blooded murder, especially of his unborn son, which nobody will tell you that he wasn't excited about having a son.

And I think that's what he wanted to say yesterday in the sentencing hearing.

But the judge wouldn't let him allocate.

You know, there's I've been on, obviously, the criminal defense side.

I also do a probably half of my practice are suing police agencies in situations where people have been wrongly killed.